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link post  Posted: 12.10.07 19:27. Post subject: US-Russia missile defense talks fail


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MOSCOW - High-level talks Friday between the United States and Russia failed to bridge major differences over U.S. plans for a missile defense system in Europe and a range of strategic arms issues.

After a series of tense meetings that began with a blunt rebuff from Russian President Vladimir Putin, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert Gates appeared to have been unable to turn around Moscow's opposition to missile defense.

Rice and Gates brought several new detailed proposals to the table meant to ease Russian concerns that the system would be aimed at Moscow, but the pair was unable to convince Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov or Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov.

"We see two serious problems with these proposals," Lavrov told reporters at a four-way news conference following the talks.

He said the two sides still disagree about the nature of the missile threat to Europe and that the Bush administration refuses to freeze its deployment plans while the issue is discussed.

"There is no agreement on this," Lavrov said. He said that while the initial U.S. plan to place elements of the system in Poland and the Czech Republic were small, it could grow to become a threat to Russia's deterrent force. "There is a potential threat for us here."

Serdyukov agreed.

"The principal thing to which we did not agree today is the deployment of anti-missile elements which have an anti-Russian character and which are to be placed in Europe," he said.

Rice said the ideas that she and Gates presented are "conceptual at this point" and would be handed to experts to consider further. The two sides plan to meet again in Washington in about six months.

"I know that we don't always see eye-to-eye on every element of the solutions to these issues, nonetheless, I believe we will do this in a constructive spirit, that we will make progress during these talks as we continue to pursue cooperation," Rice said.

Gates said that one idea is to have Russian personnel stationed at each missile defense site to improve coordination and openness with Moscow.

Neither Lavrov nor Serdyukov appeared impressed with the suggestion.

The day got off to a rocky start with Putin warning Washington to back off European missile defense, which he appeared to mock, or risk harming relations with Moscow. He also threatened to pull out of a Cold War-era treaty limiting intermediate-range missiles unless it is expanded.

"We may decide someday to put missile defense systems on the moon, but before we get to that we may lose a chance for agreement because of you implementing your own plans," he told Rice and Gates in Russian, according to an Associated Press translation.

He also urged the Bush administration not to force its plans on countries in eastern Europe.

"We hope that in the process of such complex and multifaceted talks you will not be forcing forward your previous agreements with eastern European countries," the president said.

The Pentagon plans to install 10 missile interceptors in Poland, linked to a missile tracking radar in the Czech Republic. The Pentagon says the system will provide some protection in Europe and beyond for long-range missiles launched from Iran, but Russia believes the system is a step toward undermining the deterrent value of its nuclear arsenal.

Russia sees the U.S. missile defense plan, which Washington describes as a hedge against the threat of missile attack from Iran, as a worrisome step toward weakening Russian security. It has been a long-standing dispute, and Putin's remarks seemed to raise the level of tensions.

After keeping Rice and Gates waiting for 40 minutes, Putin began the session with a lengthy monologue in which he also said Russia might abandon its obligations under a 1987 missile treaty with the United States if it is not expanded to constrain other missile-armed countries.

Referring to the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces treaty that was negotiated with the United States before the breakup of the Soviet Union, Putin said it must be applied to other countries, but did not mention any by name.

"If we are unable to obtain such a goal ... it will be difficult for us to keep within the framework of the treaty in a situation where other countries do develop such weapon systems, and among those are countries located in our near vicinity," he said.

The pact eliminated the deployment of Soviet and American ballistic missiles of intermediate range and was a landmark step in arms control just two years before the fall of the Berlin Wall and later the breakup of the Soviet Union.

Rice and Gates appeared surprised by Putin's suggestion, but officials said later it would be added to the agenda of the so-called "two plus two" group of Russian and U.S. foreign and defense ministers.

"We have an ambitious agenda of security issues that concern both of us, including, as you suggest, development of missile systems by others in the neighborhood — I would say in particular, Iran," Gates said.

Putin has also threatened to suspend Russian adherence to another arms control treaty, known as the Conventional Forces in Europe pact, which limits deployments of conventional military forces. Moscow wants it to be revised in ways that thus far have been unacceptable to U.S. and European signatories.

Shortly before the talks with Putin began, Lavrov strolled into the house's billiards room, where American reporters had gathered, for a cigarette break. He was asked whether he expected any breakthroughs in the talks.

"Breaks, definitely. Through or down, I don't know," he said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071012/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_russia

Russian President Vladimir Putin, right, shakes hands with U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates as U.S. Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, center, looks on, at the presidential residence of Novo-Ogaryovo near Moscow, Friday, Oct. 12, 2007. In a tense start to talks on a range of thorny issues, President Vladimir Putin on Friday warned U.S. officials to back off a plan to install missile defenses in eastern Europe or risk harming relations with Moscow. (AP Photo/Alexander Zemlianichenko, Pool)



From Times Online
June 5, 2007

Bush speech stokes row with Kremlin

Sam Knight and Philippe Naughton
President Bush risked further anger from the Kremlin today when he said that democracy in Russia had suffered under Vladimir Putin's rule.
Just hours before his arrival at the G8 summit in Germany — where proceedings have already been overshadowed by a row over America's plans to install missile interceptors in Eastern Europe — Mr Bush did little to improve the chill in relations between Moscow and the West.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1887320.ece


Putin says missile tests were response to NATO's actions



31/ 05/ 2007

MOSCOW, May 31 (RIA Novosti) - [color=red]Russia's president said Thursday his country's recent tests of new ballistic missiles and possible withdrawal from an arms control treaty are a direct response to harsh, unreasonable actions by NATO countries.[/color]

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http://en.rian.ru/russia/20070531/66418953.html

Russia to reply adequately to U.S. missile shield in Europe - FM

05/ 06/ 2007
SEOUL, June 5 (RIA Novosti) - [color=red]Russian military will make decisions necessary for the country's national defense[/color], in response to U.S. plans to deploy elements of its missile shield in Central Europe, the Russian foreign minister said Tuesday.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070605/66682646.html




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From Times OnlineOctober 12, 2007

Putin threatens to end Cold War nuclear pact

Vladimir Putin demanded that the US cancel its plans to site missiles in Eastern Europe today as he threatened to tear up one of the key nuclear treaties that ended the Cold War.

Relations between Russia and the West took another turn for the worse as the Russian President began talks in Moscow with Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, and Robert Gates, Defence Secretary, by launching into a tart monologue.

The US officials were visibly taken aback as Mr Putin ridiculed their proposed missile defence scheme, suggesting a missile station on the moon may be next on their agenda.

Little progress was made during today’s talks which covered future missile treaties, the political future of Kosovo and sanctions against Iran.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2645372.ece

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Just hours before his arrival at the G8 summit in Germany — where proceedings have already been overshadowed by a row over America's plans to install missile interceptors in Eastern Europe — Mr Bush did little to improve the chill in relations between Moscow and the West.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article1887320.ece


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Bush reassures Russia over missile shield in Europe

21/ 05/ 2007

WASHINGTON, May 21 (RIA Novosti) - U.S. President George W. Bush said Monday the Pentagon's plans to deploy elements of its missile shield in Central Europe were not directed against Russia.

The U.S. announced plans in January to deploy interceptor missiles in Poland and a missile defense radar in the Czech Republic as part of its missile shield aimed at countering possible threats from "rogue states" such as Iran and North Korea.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070521/65836536.html

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Russia urges US missile 'freeze'

Condoleezza Rice failed to break down Sergei Lavrov's opposition
Russia has called on the US to "freeze" plans to employ missile defence facilities in eastern Europe.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7040778.stm

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Russia refuses to back down on U.S. missile shield, CFE -1
16:59 | 12/ 10/ 2007



(Adds details, background in paras 2, 4-8)

MOSCOW, October 12 (RIA Novosti) - Russia refuses to change its position on U.S. plans to deploy missile defense elements in Europe and demands on an arms reduction treaty, a senior Defense Ministry official said on Friday.

Top Russian and U.S. defense officials and diplomats are currently engaged in talks in Moscow to address global security issues, Washington's plans to deploy a missile shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, and Russia's moratorium on the Conventional Forces in Europe treaty.

"We will not back down at all, because our position is crystal clear both on missile defense and the CFE treaty," Lieutenant-General Yevgeny Buzhinsky said during a break in Russia-U.S. ministerial consultations in the so-called "two-plus-two" format.

Moscow strongly opposes the U.S. missile shield plans, considering them a threat to its national security. Washington has insisted the missile shield is intended to stave off the threat of attacks from "rogue states" such as Iran and North Korea.

Russian President Vladimir Putin declared in July a moratorium on the CFE Treaty, which limits Russian and NATO conventional forces and heavy weaponry from the Atlantic to the Urals. No NATO countries have ratified the treaty's amended version, and the moratorium is to come into force later this year if Western countries do not ratify the document.

Moscow considers the original CFE Treaty, signed in 1990 by 30 countries to reduce conventional military forces on the continent, to be outdated since it does not reflect the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact, the breakup of the Soviet Union, or recent NATO expansion.

Before the start of bilateral consultations, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said that although Russia and the United States have differences in their approaches to global security issues, Moscow hopes to make progress on the most controversial of these through constructive dialogue.

"We want to bring our positions closer together," the Russian minister said. The consultations will run until Saturday.

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20071012/83662415.html


Russia, U.S. fail to agree on key issues at defense talks
18:35 | 12/ 10/ 2007



MOSCOW, October 12 (RIA Novosti) - The U.S. and Russia failed to resolve a missile defense dispute at Friday's talks in Moscow between the countries' foreign and defense ministers, but agreed to resume negotiations in Washington next April.

U.S. State Secretary Condoleezza Rice said talks in the "two-plus-two" format had failed to overcome differences on U.S. plans to deploy missile defense elements in Central Europe and Russian proposals to extend the START-1 arms reduction treaty, but a decision was made to continue discussions at the level of experts.

Rice said that at the talks, she and Defense Secretary Robert Gates had tried to respond to Russia's concerns on the missile shield, and were willing to continue efforts to allay its concerns.

Earlier in the day, Russian President Vladimir Putin hosted tense talks with Rice and Gates at his country residence near Moscow on defense issues.

Moscow strongly opposes U.S. plans to deploy elements of its missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic, considering them a threat to its national security. Washington has insisted the European missile shield is intended to stave off the threat of missile attack from "rogue states" such as Iran or North Korea.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the U.S. side offered an alternative to its missile defense plans in a bid to allay Russia's concerns, and said Moscow would study it. "Today our American counterparts presented their return proposal, aimed at finding a solution to the dispute," he said.

Lavrov said the two countries would continue their consultations on missile defense in Europe in the format of foreign and defense ministers in six months in Washington.

"We have agreed that this format will deal with practical implementation of the initiatives, which our countries jointly promote and implement on the international arena for the sake of strategic stability," he said.

The foreign minister said Russia had again urged the U.S. to freeze its plans to deploy missile defense elements in Poland and the Czech Republic.

He said the Russia and the U.S. have agreed to draw up criteria to determine what should be classed as a missile threat. "If we manage to work out the criteria, it will become clear that the Third Site is not needed in the way that it was planned."

On the controversial issue of the Conventional Forces in Europe treaty, aimed at limiting arms from the Atlantic to the Urals, Lavrov said Russia considers U.S. proposals on salvaging the pact to be inadequate.

"We put forward this summer our proposals on saving this treaty, suggesting how we could make it viable... Our American colleagues gave us their proposals during the Moscow talks. We have voiced our opinion - it is a step in the right direction, but we consider it to be insufficient," the minister said, without specifying the nature of the U.S. proposals.

President Vladimir Putin declared in July a moratorium on the CFE Treaty, which limits Russian and NATO conventional forces and heavy weaponry in Europe. No NATO countries have ratified the treaty's amended version, and the Russian moratorium is to come into force later this year if Western countries do not ratify the document.

Moscow considers the original CFE Treaty, signed in 1990 by 30 countries to reduce conventional military forces on the continent, to be outdated since it does not reflect the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact, the breakup of the Soviet Union, or recent NATO expansion.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20071012/83677780.html

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